or suit for the conventions and memorial?.
i have never understood this.
are they gonna hold a beauty pageant at the convention?
Because that's what most of them are all about. I know women that will literally get depressed, and not even go to these events if they don't have new outfits with shoes to match!!!
And God forbit one should be the person that can't afford much clothing. They'll tear you apart behind your back!!! Laugh at you and make jokes of how you wear the same stuff all the time. How loving, right?!
It's ridiculous!!!!!!!!!
DY
of course, there are so many to choose from.
one of my favorite examples of pure goulish evil is found in psalm 137:8,9:.
"o daughter of bablyon, you devastator!
The Bible is full of dispicable quotes! If it's truly his Word, sure leaves much to be desired about this unknown almighty creator.
DY
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is anyone interested in starting a book club?
i have always wanted to be part of one so i thought i would try to start one here.. if you are interested please respond with books or subjects of interest.. i personally enjoy reading biographies, true crime and inspirational stories.. you can respond here or in my private message box or even email me at [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sandy,
I enjoy savoring what I read and, therefore, I read slowly, identifying myself with the characters and the surroundings. On top of that, with this double-life ordeal, my time is quite limited these days.
Having said that, will this be a 1-book-per-month book club? If so, count me out for the time being.
DY
for the discussin i will set aside questions about whether paul was was infact a literary creation of the gnostic xtians.
"paul's" famous words at !
tim 2:12-15 and i cor 14:34,35 that insist women be silent in the congretgations have spawned hundreds of years of female repression.
No, not a woman hater, I don't believe, but surely the head of the 'Old Boys Network' no doubt (HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
DY
it's so sad sometimes to see people question anothers happiness.
there have been posts made about good things happening to our fellow posters here.
posters questioning good fortune and happiness.
When one hears the same thing day in and day out, you start to believe it; and one of the things that gets pounded at almost every meeting is the comment that the person "will not be happy, but rather sad and terribly conflicted" if one leaves Jehovah's Organization.
Slowly but surely I'm proving that theory wrong, but it's really hard I tell you.
DY
i just saw on tv that a 3 bedroom detached property with swimming pool in florida costs the exact same as my 2 bedroom apartment on the coast in england.
i was totally suprised by this.
as there are quite a few american posters here, i am curious as to housing costs in other areas.
Here in Southwest Florida you can find a nice modern home, with enough land between you and the neighbor for about $80,000. However, the combination of high heat and humidity of the summer months is not for everybody.
DY
i was always annoyed with my ex for using the words "pleasing to jehovah" to describe certain actions.
in actuality, he an his family (and i suspect others as well) seemed to be much more concerned with pleasing other witnesses or members of their congregations.
as an outsider, it seemed to me that they were always looking for "loopholes" to get by with certain practices, as if they thought they could trick jehovah or that he wouldn't notice so long as they were not reproved or disfellowshipped.. my ex sister-in-law regularly spent the night with her boyfriend or he with her.
Men-worshippers, congregation pleasers all the way!!!
DY
so said my mother about my research of the bible and the society's publications.
i read "too much", especially because it's information that imperfect men thought was correct that came from jehovah, "but they were wrong.
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I keep a 10 year rolling schedule with all of the org's publications. My husband hasn't even noticed all the old stuff I've thrown out in the garbage already!
DY
here was an intresting read.. notice how "the light" seems to change?
poor freddie......he was sooooo confused!.
january 15, 1964 started watchtower women's new year off with a. bang: scream if you're raped or be disfellowshiped!!!.
Gumby,
This is plain silly. In a moment of shock nobody knows how they'll react.
The most updated info is that whether the victim screams or not, there will not be disciplinary action taken against the victim of any violent crime. Makes sense!
Also, a letter was read not too long ago which stated that all types of crimes must be reported to authorities.
So, they are making some progress in this regard, believe it or not.
DY
i just got an email from my mom (who's a jw) telling me that my grandma (who's roman catholic) turned 77 yesterday, she said i should call because my grandma would be happy to hear from me.
this might seem normal in a non-jw household, but it's the first time it's ever happened in ours, what struck me is that being raised a jw i'd never been told when my relatives birthday's were and conditioned not to ask.. it's been years since i left and i've never given it a second tought, but suddenly i feel pretty small for not knowing... my grandma, being catholic was the only one in my family who even acknowleded our birthdays, at one point when we were kids we weren't allowed to see our grandparents at all because they weren't jw's, it's insane.. to this day i still don't know when my mom and dad's birthdays are, i am not even 100% sure what years they were born in.. is this normal?.
dh'
dhamah,
From this year (2004) and forward I'll make sure to acknowledge all of my immediate family's birthdays (parents, siblings and their offsprings).
Just part of my self-imposed de-programing from the org.
DY
